For anyone looking to build in the Wellington region – avoid Navigation Homes

Hi Rachel, You make some good points. We’ve just recently moved into a new build, and the house is nice in many ways. But the whole process has been a very stressful disaster. Especially if you choose the wrong builder, as we did. Actually good build quality, but went into liquidation, leaving us and subbies in a very difficult position. I’ve been in the construction industry (civil) my whole life, on the client (government) side, so I know all jobs have their problems. But when it’s your own money and life being affected, things look very different. Some people obviously have a good experience building, but my impression they’re the exception rather than the rule. The building industry in NZ is frankly a disaster. I could write a book about it. But just to give some advice about your point regarding copyright of drawings. People often don’t realise that before you pay or sign anything it’s all up for negotiation. So just tell them that if you’re paying for drawings then you want to ‘share’ the copyright. Perhaps you can agree only for your own use. If they don’t like it then tell them to get lost.

Please Please Please do your due diligence on Navigation Homes prior to sign up in whatever area you are wanting to build. The master franchise owner has and continues to have a chequered past with his franchisees, came out of another Group Home Builder coy (court battle ensued after he misappropriated their plans – fact) . The majority of these guys unfortunately were stung by the master franchisee as it appears he only wants to sell franchises and is not interested in doing his due diligence on actual business acumen or credibility. This says a lot about how he operates his business and I believe he does not do due diligence to his network which unfortunately then affects good people wanting to build a forever home. A family member runs the South Auckland office. I am sick and tired of Jo Public getting caught with these guys and then losing money. Use a reputable builder peeps and lose those who use marketing ploys to drag you in, promise the earth and never deliver, tainting your opinion of our construction industry. For peeps sake do your homework first and foremost.

Also never build with Danny Cancian and any Bella Vista Homes company he has. He screwed people over big time in Tauranga, and by the looks of it, his next move is to Wellington, unless the liquidation of Bella Vista has (hopefully) stopped this from happening to more victims in other areas.

Hi Chris – who did you build with?

Chris is correct. Currently the NZ building industry is a disaster and unfortunately there is no quick fix. There are still builders out there building leaky homes, still architects designing leaky homes and still suppliers of compressed fibre cement product (biggest name on the market) promoting products they have no idea will or will not fail early in the piece. An architect told me that he can do what he likes as its councils fault and not his, because they rubber stamp the drawings. Their are people out there specifying wind zones for the wrong sites and its you the unknowing home owner that end up with the issues, no-one else. Its the suppliers who are promoting these products with architects for large back handers, sweeteners (call them what you like) and then when court cases appear, these individuals are never to be seen. See court case currently – Herald today – Two James Hardie companies, James Hardie New Zealand and Studorp, lost their application to toss out a leaky buildings class action case in the Supreme Court. The High Court is set to hear a representative action brought by leaky building owners against James Hardie alleging that leaks in their homes are attributable to inherent defects in cladding systems manufactured by James Hardie. They also claim that James Hardie made misleading statements about the cladding systems in the technical literature. James Hardie went to New Zealand’s top court after the Court of Appeal upheld a ruling allowing the suit to proceed, arguing among other things that the Appeal Court erred in finding that the respondents had the “same interest” in the subject matter of the proceeding as the class members it is proposed they represent. And this company is a huge supplier to our NZ Construction industry. Our industry is a major mess and all that is happening is a joke and there is no way any government is going to solve our ongoing issues. The only way we have to go forward is for architects to design responsibly and take out insurance for any build that are involved in. This is what they do overseas and it works but my only issue is that architects consistently charge like wounded bulls and alot are severely lacking in their plan skillsets leaving the builder to work out what is required as detail is missing. No detail, no responsibility!!!! Back on the builder again. Only then architects will build as they take responsibility for the design and the build and only reputable builders will be utilised. The unfortunate state of our industry is that builders out there are choosing to not be LBP licenced (most don’t do complete building works in this area and only new home builds) as an LBP they take full responsibility should product like the aboves fail as historically these coys fed the builders to the wolves as the problem (and some were with installation but majority weren’t). The only solution is to not utilise any such product in our market. This statement is an old ploy to mislead and they pull all failing product off market including all reference to such failures: From Herald -They also claim that James Hardie made misleading statements about the cladding systems in the technical literature. The NZ Construction industry is a joke and all unsuspecting parties need to ensure they use expert builders, not hammerhands, not unqualified teams, not builders who just stand new home frames and don’t know how to fully build a new abode. Such a web of deceit across all trades in the construction industry. Seriously disappointing to all of us who are in this for the longterm good.

Unsure if true but have heard with Bella Vista going into liquidation due to worksafe issues. Bullshit. This guy has been shakey for some time as we in the industry have heard not paying his accounts and when we get a request to price from someone like this like we did recently we know they are have payment issues. This site should be a great medium for folks out there sourcing a businesses financial health position and hopefully keep the public safe from this scenario. My thoughts with those parties affected by this business failure. Note to those building – easy as to ask suppliers in the construction industry who they supply and which ones always pay their accounts on time and most of them know who are good and whose not. This way you know straight away who is in good health. Also they are the suppliers who will refer you to good companies although the only misnomer here is that they will probably always select their favourites. Sometimes not a bad thing. Excerpt from Herald – 81 requests for information just with a building consent app. That’s unheard of. BDO’s report revealed that a single building consent application by Bella Vista generated 81 requests for information by building consent processing staff. BDO’s report revealed that a single building consent application by Bella Vista generated 81 requests for information by building consent processing staff. ”There is no doubt that TCC building department have learnings from their dealings with Bella Vista over the past 12 months.” Comment was sought yesterday from Bella Vista Homes director Danny Cancian of Pyes Pa. He did not respond by deadline to messages, including a request forwarded through his accountant.

This is a most interesting find as we are also caught up with the master franchise owner and experiencing challenges. I would be most interested in past dealings with him and his company.

Hi CJ, As I mentioned they went into liquidation, so not really relevant to anyone else now. So I’m not trying to keep it a secret, but do you mind if I ask first why you want to know?

Update for the general public. Danny Cancian is endeavouring to start up a new housing company – oh so soon – and all the unsuspecting parties out there who don’t know. 101 Homes and Sierra or Sienna Homes. BEWARE. Apparently he has family fronting the new startups – BOP and Wellington way maybe. Lets stop him before he gets his hands on any other honest persons money. Disgusting he goes broke one week and initiates new startups the next. He was a bankrupt in Wellington so I heard through the grapevine.

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Danny Cancian is behind the new housing company Lakes Homes in Tauranga. AVOID AT ALL COSTS. He has people fronting the company for him but you will see his name as ‘presenter’ on all the legal documents, so definitely involved!

Danny Cancian has also been in prison in China for manslaughter, so there’s that: http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/8452504/I-didn-t-see-the-Sun-or-the-stars-for-four-years