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R J T

Seen a few people on here asking about Summit Homes Pokeno, as a first home buyer made the biggest mistake of my life trusting these guys buying a house and land package. They sell you the dream but only leave you with nightmares. Tell you in the beginning they pride themselves in communication and taking first home buyers through all the steps and making it stress free and it will be a 3 month build, all is well until you have signed on the dotted line and pay your deposit then they drop off the face of the earth, you are then left constantly chasing them for updates and being ignored, nonstop excuses, never even got close to any of the dates they set or even the revised dates or revised-revised dates, constantly losing admin staff. Lots of hidden clauses or extra costs that they don’t tell you about, can’t even read a plan had multiple items installed in the wrong places even though it’s there in black and white on the plan. Caught the sales team in multiple blatant lies If you try and voice your concerns or exercise your legal rights, you are met with bully tactics told you should be thankful because they have the right to put the build price up and haven’t yet and that you shouldn’t be complaining because of the market you have “made money” on your build even though your house isn’t built and you and your young family now have to spend another winter freezing living in your parents’ garage. Multiple reports of same stories in this subdivision and we are the lucky ones that actually have a completed home, some still waiting for their “3-month build” to even START over a year after the contract completion date, meanwhile they are advertising other new subdivisions for sale and selling new builds promising buyers houses within months when they can’t even complete the ones for people waiting that they have already sold years ago. And now that we are finally in, we are constantly chasing warranties for low quality cheap faulty fittings and appliances that were included in their package. We tried to contact Master build multiple times but basically a waste of time. I’m not usually one to write negative reviews as I figure everyone has their off days, but this has been a 2-year+ constant drain on my relationship and family life and hopefully this can save a future young first home buyer some heartache because I sure wish someone had warned me about these guys beforehand.
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danielle

We have had the same sort of problems with ecosmart homes as this out in glenbrook. two years and still no home ready. all the homes around the area are going up sooo fast and countless have been finished since we started in 2020. they told us the same thing “we got a good price” “those houses costed more” “youve made money” it actually blows my mind how common companies are treating their clients like this! its disgusting. Im sorry that you are going through this! so hard to know what to do. we are now looking at seeing if our lawyer can get us out of the final instalment and ccc and we take over the build completely because there is no end in site!
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MJ

Hi Danielle, Sorry to hear of your build, it seems that some in the building industry are really taking the piss at the moment because of the demand but you only need to read the newspaper to find some companies are already folding because they over stretched themselves in the boom and won’t be able to make ends meet in the lull and that tale is as old as time. If you want to extricate yourselves from your current builders and get your lawyer to draft a proposal for taking over the build yourselves to the CCC might I recommend that you employ a building forensic specialist first? They will go over your build with a fine tooth comb and find every issue that is either not to the plans, not to the current building code and anything that is of poor workmanship or poor quality materials and they will give you a detailed and very easy to understand report about exactly what needs finishing and to a decent standard to CCC. Once you have that report your lawyer will be better equipped to make demands. If you want a monetary figure to go with that you can easily submit the report to a quantity surveyor who will give you up to date figures on materials and labour for each issue the building specialist highlights. You’re probably thinking it’ll cost too much and you may be right, our building specialist and quantity surveyor cost us just under $4k in total and that was as of March this year. But they identified $89k’s worth of issues that needed rectifying when we had only managed to identify $45k, we had no idea there was a problem until it was pointed out to us so money very well spent we think. And yes, we got every penny of it too. These reports also carry a lot of weight in the legal system so if it turns out that this is direction you may be headed (I sincerely hope not but you never know) then almost all of your due diligence would have already been done. Our building forensic specialist was Noel Jellyman and he is based in Hamilton and nothing escapes is eye, he is a marvel and knows his stuff and he can recommend a quantity surveyor too if that is what you want to do. You can always run this all by your lawyer but we will never regret doing this first or we would have sold ourselves short by over $40k. We’ve been exactly where you are now and we wasted three years trying to get $45k refunded to remediate/finish work so we could get a CCC, but when we employed the right people to help it took only 3 months and we got twice the amount. As I said , run it past your lawyer and I hope it all works well for you going forwar, please let us know how you get on.
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Chris C

Hi Danielle, Since both are about problems with Ecosmart, I assume it was you that wrote twice on 8/10/22. When I responded on 9/10/22 I was looking more at the ‘poor progress/delayed completion’ aspect, as I think this is a very common problem on this blog. Which I think would be much less of a problem (although of course never zero), if people were more insistent on decent Contract conditions regarding completion date (ie contract period), provisions for time extension when reasonably justified, and ideally the Liquidated Damages a builder should pay you if he fails to complete on time. Having said that, I must praise MJ’s excellent suggestions on a process for dealing with the other aspect, which is faulty or unsatisfactory workmanship. When our job went wrong (ie builder went into liquidation) I did not need to do this, as the builder had almost welcomed me visiting the Site, and discussing the work. So workmanship up to that time was actually very good. But MJ has explained (obviously from bitter experience), in a very clear way, the advantages of getting experts involved, and recording everything. It’s a great idea to do this, as soon as you start having this kind of problem. But based on the cost he mentions, I would say that for people who are not experienced in building it would be worth considering getting this kind of expertise on board from day one. Even $10K would be cheap, if it reduces the risk of problems occurring in the first place. This is why, on large Government projects, the Client (eg NZTA) has almost as many people on Site checking progress and workmanship, as the Contractor has supervising the construction. A lot better to make sure things are done right, than try to put them right later. (Not always successful of course, but that’s life in the construction game.) Of course, making sure that the Contract allows these people to have adequate Site access. (While making clear, it’s not to give instructions to people working on Site, but just to observe what’s going on, on your behalf.) If the builder resists this, it probably means you should be cautious about dealing with him.
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MJ

I forgot to mention , do not rely on your local council to find instances of poor workmanship and faulty building products they are only contracted to find faults with the building code and issues of non compliance with your consented building plans, and even in this they very well could miss something but you will never be able to make them liable if they do so channel your anger at the building company and this will save you a lot of money and stress.
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SBrown

Hi Ecosmart homes’ director has a bit of a history. I think it’s the same as NZfirst homes. We nearly signed up for one of their builds in Helensville. Check out the stories from 2020.
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